• Valarie@lemmygrad.ml
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    20 hours ago

    I think it is more so anyone who can stay a cop because they push all the good people out and attract the bastards

    Some people join trying to make things better but I cannot imagine anyone staying in it for that

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    21 hours ago

    Where is that video of the Chinese cop tearing milk company managers a new one for calling the police in response to workers staging a sit in as part of a labor dispute?

  • lemmy_acct_id_8647@lemmy.world
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    The way I’ve argued it is that not all people who work as police are bastards. Some may be good people outside of work. The moment they put on that badge and willfully become part of an oppressive system, they are bastards.

    Yeah. It’s got holes-a-plenty, but it brings people into the conversation without throwing a totally blanket statement.

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      Not speaking up or pushing against policies and such that target specific groups of people because that’s the way we’ve always done it makes you a bastard still. We all know there’s probably one or two good cops per department/precinct that truly wish and do help people when they can. But they’re silenced for the sake of their job speaking out against the mistreatments and policies.

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        Oh I WHOLLY agree. I just find the willingness to concede that some may be good people under it makes people open to the conversation. Then you logic them into a corner and help the see that all cops ARE in fact bastards.

    • Rachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Same here. You don’t really get flexibility, if the law says it’s illegal to be Jewish or whatever, as a LEO you have to enforce that law regardless of your personal belief. You become the armed grunt for that system. Same with those who join the military.

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    2 days ago

    How ACAB works (for nerds):

    public abstract class Bastard {}
    
    private interface DictatorshipOfTheBourgeoisie {}
    
    private class Cop extends Bastard implements DictatorshipOfTheBourgeoisie {}
    
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    I’m on the “it’s all until it’s regular practice for cops to arrest their peers and leaders for breaking laws” side. Like, yeah, there are probably some who want to “change the system” or are “just keeping their head down and providing for their community” which are both noble aspirations… but they need full scale follow through or it’s just copwashing.

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      I don’t like lumping in the individual with the group. I hate blanket statements. All they do is enforce the „us vs them“ mentality that, in my opinion, is a big part of the problem in the first place.
      But I also have the privilege of living in a country with a fairly well trained and regulated police force (Germany). I know it’s not perfect but it’s also not terrible.
      Most individual cops I‘ve met do their job for the right reasons.

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        Most individual cops I‘ve met do their job for the right reasons.

        Most individual cops I’ve met have been the most abrasive egotistical assholes in any room I met them in. The one that I knew was in a relationship really lent credence to the 40% of American cops self report committing domestic violence.

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        I’m not a fan of lumping either, but it is literally in their job that they should be holding their peers accountable the same as every other person. They don’t, so even if they’re the individual cop doing it for the right reasons, they still have a burden of duty that they are shirking. Thus, in the lump they go.

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    I’ve sometimes seen people making exceptions for countries they like. China being a prominent example