• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    actually i don’t really want to fight anyone. i think what we need is wisdom and ideas to lay out a plan forward; what we need is a thinktank to actually develop visions for the future. instead what we have is a lot of blaming-the-other-one. that’s barely productive. we need to have positive visions for the future again.

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    Ahhhh liberals, spreading the same sinophobia and anti-DPRK sentiment as the righties worded a bit different and with a pride flag 😄 🫠

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      don’t forget the red-scare propaganda, almost exactly as told by the far-right

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      Libs: Waaa how could you support NK! It’s run by a dictator who keeps his people in ruin and absolutely kills millions!!! MSNBC told me so!

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            It’s generally seen as a submissive act to do it to someone else. There’s nothing inherently wrong with it, just like there’s nothing inherently wrong with wanting to lick your partner’s feet. However performing a submissive act of that nature on someone who doesn’t deserve it is questionable and kinda sad.

            Inb4 “ur homophobic”

            A) I’m not taking an accusation like that from someone who’s username is mathemachristian

            B) I literally told my girlfriend the other day that when I visit her I’m going to suck her dick so hard she’ll think she had bottom surgery. IDK what the fuck that was supposed to mean, but she liked it.

            Edit: I’ve seen people try to set that trap before. It’s a cheap way to “gotcha” someone and is usually used to try and accuse them of being homophobic (something about sucking dick being something only gay men do, which isn’t even remotely true lol). I see people resort to stuff like that when they don’t have anything of more substance. It also ignores that the potential that the user themselves is gay.

            Yes.

            Please.

            Tell me how I, a transbian, am homophobic.

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              It’s generally seen as a submissive act to do it to someone else.

              Yes we already know that societally it’s employed as a homophobic and highly sexualized demeaning slur. Everything you wrote after is just apologizing for your use of it.

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              If it’s not homophobic because women can also suck dick, provide a single example of this attack being deployed on a woman.

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                I’m a woman. I’ve been told to stop sucking someone’s dick, and someone told another friend to stop doing it to me. And before you ask, no, I don’t have screenshots because I’m not a weirdo who feels the need to record every VC/VRC conversation I have.

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                  This clarification feels tedious but apparently necessary: a political attack made in public.

                  I wonder if you’d defend the f-slur as not being homophobic because some gay friends of mine might use it subversively. That is not in the context you were asked for an example.

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          It’s entirely possible to be a communist while also believing that NK is a shitty country.

          You have missed the point entirely, NK isnt a “shitty country” because that is just a false narrative put forth by the empire’s massive media manipulation/propaganda anti-communist machine.

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          What’s wrong with that? Without authority in the current world context, you simply get eaten alive. The DPRK has to spend a lot of resources into it’s military, much much more than then would like, because otherwise they would get fucking bombed back to the middle ages by the americans, again.

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          Yeppers, based on the ever-present empire totally-the-truth about the “authoritarianism” of the DPRK or CCP or any communistic leaning government they don’t like 😁

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              The dprk doesn’t exist in a vacuum, many of these policies are in place due the constant state of exception the DPRK is in due to US economic sanctions and US military bases in south korea, which they perform invasion drills every single year. I very much prefer how they live than how countries live after they’re bombed the US, e.g. Libya. And i cannot imagine a well read south korean being content with their position as a vassal, like it or not, north koreans have much more actual freedom

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    11 hours ago

    Meanwhile right wingers were the only ones that tried to shoot Trump while “actual leftists” created memes about how tough "actual leftists"are.

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      You seriously believe that wasn’t staged? That patsy’s second to his last thought was about how he’d spend all the money he was promised….

      … his last thought was interrupted by the bullet passing through it.

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          Weren’t the allies putting off Hitler assassinations due to fear of him being replaced by someone more competent?

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            It’s not nonsense. It’s human nature. People are, in general, not different than their tribal ancestors from 300,000 years ago.

            The forces that create the environment for a Hitler to come to power are different than the personality cult that develops after the person is in power.

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              It’s human nature

              When ever you see this, is guaranteed that whatever follows is baseless pseudoscience.

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                  Oh yeah, by all means, cite the peer reviewed biology papers showing that Great Man Theory is Evolutionary Biology, because, yes, “it’s evolutionary biology!” Is the number one catch phrase of people spouting baseless pseudo science.

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        You know what it wouldn’t have ended up as? What we have now.

        What’s the death toll at currently for innocent people?

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    Yis, the movie that made GUN just incidentally involved instead of the whole problem. Also where tf was City Escape? Still love you, Sonic.

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      Who said anything about physically fighting? Liberals roll over to the right in all manner, in the courts, legislatively, when they are in power…

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        Oh, then by all means. Maybe show up to a Democratic primary once in a while and you’ll get your chance.

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          and get sabotaged by the party in favor of some old conservative fart like joe biden?

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            That’s a form of cognitive distortion, not a political strategy. Mamdani won against 10 other candidates because we showed up. We have literal evidence that’s all it takes. Quit with the victim mentally and take your country back.

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              i hope mamdani succeeds and all, but that’s literally what happened the last few us presidential elections. electoralism is historically incapable of defeating fascism.

              if you are counting on it to fix the us, like all we need is hope and rainbows, i have some bad news for ya.

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          Friend, what a pointless waste of time with the uniparty, they will do whatever is needed to manipulate away any real change

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            Whenever I come across one of these lemmy.ml posts where this general topic of leftists shitting on western libs comes up, it always makes me curious.

            I understand what y’all hate. I regularly hear what doesn’t work (voting). But I never hear a concise, specific, tactical thing that I as an individual could do.

            Sometimes I’ll see very generic notes about how “nothing’s ever going to change until a unified, violent, upheaval happens”, but that’s about the closest I’ve ever seen.

            So please. Indulge me. I’m a US lefty lib. What should I be doing if I want to help leftist causes (pro-labor / break up corporations / etc).

            Because I swear to gods. According to folks here:

            • voting? Doesn’t work
            • donating? You’ll never outspend
            • grass roots whatever? They’ll stomp you out
            • acts of coordinated violence? We’d never say that explicitly

            What then? I hate the current trajectory of my country and feel helpless to change anything with the tools I have at hand. Give me one practical thing I can do to help unfuck this mess.

            (And to the FBI listening in. I’d never do anything illegal based on advice of Internet strangers. I just wanna hear them say, out loud, what I think they really want to say)

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              Join an org like PSL. Organizing is step number 1, reading theory is arguably step number 2. The working class’s greatest strength is in unified action, so joining a good socialist party, one that is revolutionary but still connected to the people, is the primary task. Revolution isn’t something you just do, though, the working class party has to be seen by the working class as their party, which is accomplished by genuinely working to improve their lives. When revolution happens, it’s the party’s job to lead, forming the tip of the spear.

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                I’m a member of DSA, and they have a far better strategy than trying to rally around a third-party. It’s all about the Democratic primaries.

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                  No, the DSA doesn’t have a better strategy. PSL gets more done per member, and actually has the cohesion to get things done. PSL is at the forefront of the ongoing protests against Trump, Israel, etc right now.

                  Maybe if Red Star Caucus became the only caucus in the DSA, they’d finally develop the cohesion necessary to wield its size properly. It’s certainly better to join an org than not, but if there’s both a PSL chapter and DSA in your area, you’d be far better off with PSL.

                  PSL’s primary advantage is that it’s a revolutionary party that doesn’t shy away from participating in elections. It isn’t focused on electoralism as the only strategy. The Democrats are a party of capital, they cannot be truly taken over.

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            If you’re honestly expecting a three-party system to emerge from FPTP, you need to work on your mathematics.

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                I don’t care if you play. I’m merely saying how continuing to do nothing is pointless. Good luck complaining the government out of power.

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                  All meaningful positive change in the US happened outside of the theatre piece of electoral politics. These include:

                  • Socialist armies like vietnam’s bringing the US to heel ended the US draft.
                  • Large numbers of people protesting internally, brought the end of the vietnam war, rights for workers like the 8 hour day, women’s rights, etc. The US has one of the bloodiest labor histories of any country, and unfortunately the US state did defeat it, but all of the gains for US workers come from this historical period of anti-capitalist organization.

                  US electoralism is a distracting theatre piece, where both sides act as capitalist puppets. All positive change comes in spite of that system, when ppl start organizing outside of it.

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            You know what causes more harm than Democrats? People not voting for them because they’re not far enough to the left, and therefore moving the entire country to the right.

            What teaches the Dems to move to the right is that those on the right actually get votes.

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              Sure friend, just keep voting for the ratchet! Im sure the genocidal zionoists like AOC will have a change of heart any day now!

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              Correct. What caused the Democrats to move right over the last 40 years were the retirees who continuously voted for centrist conservatives in primaries. They’re the only ones who always show up, hence the <15% congressional primary attendance.

              Mamdani got the NYC primary up to a record 30%. That’s all it takes for us the move the Overton Window back to the left.

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                Mamdani got the NYC primary up to a record 30%. and they are already moving to put the kibosh on him! PROGRESS!

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                  All they can do to him is withhold funding. He won the primary with a grassroots campaign. The part you really don’t understand is that short of voter suppression or ballot tampering, we control the election.

                  Do you eat fast food everyday because of advertising or do you choose to be self-informed and eat healthy? Do you blame Big Lettuce for not advertising salads enough?

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                  Because the corporate Dems are scared when people actually show up to vote in the primary. That’s why we need to keep doing it to replace the Democratic leadership.

                  Why are you trying so hard to keep people from doing that? Are you an idiot, or are you a troll and actually want things to stay as they are?