It is a solution in search of a problem. And it would create far more expensive problems than it proposes to solve. The Soviets already did this kind of thing–the same Soviets who deliberately starved millions to death with manufactured food shortages.
Is there a name for the fallacy that something is doomed to fail just because some quasi-communist state tried to implement something similar at some point?
The fallacy is failing to understand the authoritarian spirit behind purported ‘humanitarian’ causes, especially those that involve using the deadly force of the state for funding. People who worship the idol of political power are generally lacking awareness of their own desire to boss others around. Failing to learn from history is part and parcel of the matter. Giving government ubiquitous control over the food supply has one result, and history has proved it a hundred times over. Complain all you want about greed in the market–government is near infinitely greedier.
Alright friend, OP certainly never implied “giving government ubiquitous control over the food supply” by any means, so at least this is clearly a simple case of strawman fallacy.
edit: like if you think about it for literally more than two seconds, you’ll realize that OP’s idea involved building capacity amongst the general population for horticulture, something which fundamentally opposes the idea of giving government ubiquitous control.
The school cafeterias could remain open 24/7 for everyone. Sure, taxes would go up about 50% or so, but free sloppy joes would be well worth it, amirite?
@Sunshine@piefed.ca
What you propose has existed for decades. See the link:
https://www.fns.usda.gov/summer/sitefinder
Only available for children in the summer… I don’t think this isn’t the solution being proposed.
It is a solution in search of a problem. And it would create far more expensive problems than it proposes to solve. The Soviets already did this kind of thing–the same Soviets who deliberately starved millions to death with manufactured food shortages.
Is there a name for the fallacy that something is doomed to fail just because some quasi-communist state tried to implement something similar at some point?
The fallacy is failing to understand the authoritarian spirit behind purported ‘humanitarian’ causes, especially those that involve using the deadly force of the state for funding. People who worship the idol of political power are generally lacking awareness of their own desire to boss others around. Failing to learn from history is part and parcel of the matter. Giving government ubiquitous control over the food supply has one result, and history has proved it a hundred times over. Complain all you want about greed in the market–government is near infinitely greedier.
Alright friend, OP certainly never implied “giving government ubiquitous control over the food supply” by any means, so at least this is clearly a simple case of strawman fallacy.
edit: like if you think about it for literally more than two seconds, you’ll realize that OP’s idea involved building capacity amongst the general population for horticulture, something which fundamentally opposes the idea of giving government ubiquitous control.
Our local school opened up one of these programs during the pandemic. It’s a blessing but it only is for kids and only lasts 8 weeks during the summer
Lol. Welcome to ‘growing seasons’
@TORFdot0@lemmy.world
The school cafeterias could remain open 24/7 for everyone. Sure, taxes would go up about 50% or so, but free sloppy joes would be well worth it, amirite?
Our society lacks sufficient trust to have something work like this.
Also, there certainly going to be negative externalities when mixing kids with the poor.
I doubt anyone would sign on this security wise. Schools are already border line prison conditions in the US.