People voted for a guy that said he would stand up for Canada after Trumps deranged threats. Instead they got a zionist worm that folds at the slightest whisper of “tariff”.
As opposed to a Nazi simp who would have sold us straight into the gas chambers of America? Right call. Every time.
Also so far Carney has been harder on Israel than any Canadian prime minister to date. So get out of here will your bullshit propaganda calling him a Zionist. Go back to the US.
Strange. We don’t have a two party system, but somehow the seat distribution reflects that. If only the Librerals addressed FPTP like promised during their “crisis election” of the time.
If pigs could fly we’d have less bacon. Are you new or did you forget we vote for the least bad party? There was only one option last election that would not result in PP getting in. But you keep going on fantasizing.
You know exactly what he’s done. Recognizing a Palestinian state won’t stop the war but it’s an important step.
There is nothing else Canada can do anyways. Do you want us to get into hot war with Israel and subsequently the US? I don’t. And we have no other leverage.
He could stop lying about the selling of arm to israel, he can do a both way arm ambargo and impose sanctions on the state of israel. He should apologize about saying that a palestinian state need to be a zionist palestine. He could acknowledge the genocide and stop pretending. He should take action on the people who was selling land of occupied west bank in synagogues
Recognizing a Palestinian state won’t stop the war but it’s an important step.
It would be an important step within a context of action, but when the context is unchanged complicity it’s hard to see it as anything but a smokescreen.
There is nothing else Canada can do anyways.
Boycott, Divest, Sanction moment. Other than that, send the navy to escort their activists going on a humanitarian mission in international waters. Should the Canadian government not be protecting its citizens?
He is a Zionist, he wants a “Zionist Palestine”. What does that mean, other then he supports the Zionists agenda of murdering and replacing all Palestinians? At the same time his government continues to sell weapons to Israel, while saying they aren’t.
Thus, for all intents and purposes, Carney is a Zionist as he is actively supporting Israels goals.
You think we are fools aren’t you. Zionism is very clear you can just check the writing of Herzl and Zionist leaders to know what it is . Caney can’t just invent another definition.
He said that Palestinians should accept Israel but we should all know that it is Israel that is the settler colonial power who occupied Palestinians land and ethnically cleansing them multiple time. Israel couldn’t have been created without mass displacements because jews only owned 5% to 8% of land and was geographically dispersed.
He talk about how Palestinians should behave to get their states while Canada was quickly recognizing Israel after the Nekba and the multiple Zionist terrorist operations
While I wish Carney was more openly ‘elbows up’ I acknowledge there’s a tonne at that level of government I don’t really know about. I’d say at this point, yeah, I’m disappointed in Carney, but for now I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. From day one his path was to pull away from the strongest ally Canada has ever had and an ally we were near-totally tied to. It takes time to find alternate deals and countries to replace those broken agreements. Cutting ties instantly would have led to the greatest recession Canada has ever seen and may well have destroyed the country. Honestly, if he announces some major shifts to other countries within his first year I’d expect that to be a pretty significant success.
Just like how Trump’s policies have taken 6 to 8 months to start showing results in the US, moving away from a country we were so closely tied to will not only take a long time to do, but seeing the results will take longer beyond that. Carney’s only been PM for 8 months and is arguably facing the greatest challenge any PM has had to face in decades. I’ve tempered my expectations and am waiting to see how the next few months play out. My hope is that he’s just stringing Trump along until we get our shit sorted, like setting up a new job and place to live before leaving an abusive relationship.
Canadian imports and exports are an absolutely massive ship to change course -especially when a lot of private contracts are years into the future. That said, we are already trading a lot more with pretty much everyone except the US.
Ah yes, as we saw in the US the best thing to do when a left-leaning leader isn’t as harsh on Israel as we’d like is to swing our support over to the right-leaning leader.
Trump won because Americans was fooled by his promise of fixing the economy and Carney will lose for the same reason next time and like in the USA they will be people who claim that Palestine is the reason he lost and the other side with complain about how anti occupation people are the reason Carney lose
Is that what the poster said? This isn’t America, we have 3rd and even 4th and 5th parties to choose from. There’s no reason to vote for the zionist if you want a principled anti-Zionist party like the NDP.
The Americans have third parties too. And just like in America, voting third party in Canada usually acts as a “spoiler” that helps out a party that doesn’t align ideologically with the voter who’s casting their protest vote. You have to vote strategically in each riding to make your vote actually accomplish something and that usually comes down to a choice between Liberal and Conservative.
Please do not turn our multi-party democracy into an America-style duopoly with your “strategic voting”. All it’s done is turn our elections into another Red-vs-Blue nightmare where both parties have the same policies and are only differentiated by culture wars.
It’s not my decision, unfortunately. It’s a structural feature that’s inherent in first-past-the-post voting. If you don’t vote strategically then you are “throwing your vote away” whether you believe it or not.
Canada’s been fortunate in having some ridings where a national “third party” was locally the strategic one to vote for. I myself was fortunate to be able to vote NDP last election, my riding was one of the few where the two leading candidates were NDP and Conservative rather than Liberal and Conservative. Same went for some Bloc voters in Quebec, presumably. But look at the history of Canadian elections, it’s a two-party system in all but name. The times where it wasn’t ultimately a question of “Liberal or Conservative?” Were rare aberrations, and even in those rare cases where there was a viable third party candidate they still only made it as far as opposition.
I would very much like to change that. I consider Trudeau’s greatest betrayal to be how he reneged on electoral reform, and I suspect it will be seen as Canada’s last lost opportunity to avoid an American-style future fate. But just because I don’t like it doesn’t mean I can’t recognize the actual situation we’re facing.
I consider Trudeau’s greatest betrayal to be how he reneged on electoral reform, and I suspect it will be seen as Canada’s last lost opportunity to avoid an American-style future fate.
People voted for a guy that said he would stand up for Canada after Trumps deranged threats. Instead they got a zionist worm that folds at the slightest whisper of “tariff”.
As opposed to a Nazi simp who would have sold us straight into the gas chambers of America? Right call. Every time.
Also so far Carney has been harder on Israel than any Canadian prime minister to date. So get out of here will your bullshit propaganda calling him a Zionist. Go back to the US.
Strange. We don’t have a two party system, but somehow the seat distribution reflects that. If only the Librerals addressed FPTP like promised during their “crisis election” of the time.
Liberals always want to change FPTP until they pass it…
If pigs could fly we’d have less bacon. Are you new or did you forget we vote for the least bad party? There was only one option last election that would not result in PP getting in. But you keep going on fantasizing.
Literally nothing in the parent comment even alludes to PP what are you even talking about?
Really? What did he do? Not say, do.
You know exactly what he’s done. Recognizing a Palestinian state won’t stop the war but it’s an important step.
There is nothing else Canada can do anyways. Do you want us to get into hot war with Israel and subsequently the US? I don’t. And we have no other leverage.
He could stop lying about the selling of arm to israel, he can do a both way arm ambargo and impose sanctions on the state of israel. He should apologize about saying that a palestinian state need to be a zionist palestine. He could acknowledge the genocide and stop pretending. He should take action on the people who was selling land of occupied west bank in synagogues
It would be an important step within a context of action, but when the context is unchanged complicity it’s hard to see it as anything but a smokescreen.
Boycott, Divest, Sanction moment. Other than that, send the navy to escort their activists going on a humanitarian mission in international waters. Should the Canadian government not be protecting its citizens?
There was nothing in the parent comment about Israel or Gaza either but here we all are.
He literally said he want Palestinian to accept Zionism the supremacist ideology that caused the whole mess
He is a Zionist, he wants a “Zionist Palestine”. What does that mean, other then he supports the Zionists agenda of murdering and replacing all Palestinians? At the same time his government continues to sell weapons to Israel, while saying they aren’t.
Thus, for all intents and purposes, Carney is a Zionist as he is actively supporting Israels goals.
https://www.cjpmemap.ca/2025_06_25_lb_cbc_news
https://rachelgilmore.substack.com/p/carney-reiterates-call-for-a-zionist
He defines it right here and it’s not your little fantasy definition: https://youtube.com/shorts/Sjg8r43vPMc
You think we are fools aren’t you. Zionism is very clear you can just check the writing of Herzl and Zionist leaders to know what it is . Caney can’t just invent another definition.
He said that Palestinians should accept Israel but we should all know that it is Israel that is the settler colonial power who occupied Palestinians land and ethnically cleansing them multiple time. Israel couldn’t have been created without mass displacements because jews only owned 5% to 8% of land and was geographically dispersed.
He talk about how Palestinians should behave to get their states while Canada was quickly recognizing Israel after the Nekba and the multiple Zionist terrorist operations
While I wish Carney was more openly ‘elbows up’ I acknowledge there’s a tonne at that level of government I don’t really know about. I’d say at this point, yeah, I’m disappointed in Carney, but for now I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. From day one his path was to pull away from the strongest ally Canada has ever had and an ally we were near-totally tied to. It takes time to find alternate deals and countries to replace those broken agreements. Cutting ties instantly would have led to the greatest recession Canada has ever seen and may well have destroyed the country. Honestly, if he announces some major shifts to other countries within his first year I’d expect that to be a pretty significant success.
Just like how Trump’s policies have taken 6 to 8 months to start showing results in the US, moving away from a country we were so closely tied to will not only take a long time to do, but seeing the results will take longer beyond that. Carney’s only been PM for 8 months and is arguably facing the greatest challenge any PM has had to face in decades. I’ve tempered my expectations and am waiting to see how the next few months play out. My hope is that he’s just stringing Trump along until we get our shit sorted, like setting up a new job and place to live before leaving an abusive relationship.
Canadian imports and exports are an absolutely massive ship to change course -especially when a lot of private contracts are years into the future. That said, we are already trading a lot more with pretty much everyone except the US.
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/features/2025/canada-international-trade/
Wow I haven’t seen this, it’s put together really well. Great to see those numbers!
Ah yes, as we saw in the US the best thing to do when a left-leaning leader isn’t as harsh on Israel as we’d like is to swing our support over to the right-leaning leader.
It’s working out great down here!
Trump won because Americans was fooled by his promise of fixing the economy and Carney will lose for the same reason next time and like in the USA they will be people who claim that Palestine is the reason he lost and the other side with complain about how anti occupation people are the reason Carney lose
Is that what the poster said? This isn’t America, we have 3rd and even 4th and 5th parties to choose from. There’s no reason to vote for the zionist if you want a principled anti-Zionist party like the NDP.
We have 4 major parties. BC only care about quebec npd was destroyed in the last election. We sre not in the same situation as the USA
The Americans have third parties too. And just like in America, voting third party in Canada usually acts as a “spoiler” that helps out a party that doesn’t align ideologically with the voter who’s casting their protest vote. You have to vote strategically in each riding to make your vote actually accomplish something and that usually comes down to a choice between Liberal and Conservative.
Thanks, first-past-the-post.
Please do not turn our multi-party democracy into an America-style duopoly with your “strategic voting”. All it’s done is turn our elections into another Red-vs-Blue nightmare where both parties have the same policies and are only differentiated by culture wars.
It’s not my decision, unfortunately. It’s a structural feature that’s inherent in first-past-the-post voting. If you don’t vote strategically then you are “throwing your vote away” whether you believe it or not.
Canada’s been fortunate in having some ridings where a national “third party” was locally the strategic one to vote for. I myself was fortunate to be able to vote NDP last election, my riding was one of the few where the two leading candidates were NDP and Conservative rather than Liberal and Conservative. Same went for some Bloc voters in Quebec, presumably. But look at the history of Canadian elections, it’s a two-party system in all but name. The times where it wasn’t ultimately a question of “Liberal or Conservative?” Were rare aberrations, and even in those rare cases where there was a viable third party candidate they still only made it as far as opposition.
I would very much like to change that. I consider Trudeau’s greatest betrayal to be how he reneged on electoral reform, and I suspect it will be seen as Canada’s last lost opportunity to avoid an American-style future fate. But just because I don’t like it doesn’t mean I can’t recognize the actual situation we’re facing.
This is worth all the upvotes in this discussion.
FWIW, He’s better on the Gaza issue than Trudeau.
In the US it isn’t worth anything.
Everyone that’s not perfect is equally bad.
And if they’re perfect they’re surely hiding something, better not vote at all
I mean, I more just wanted a guy that wouldn’t just bend over and present himself and let Trump go to town.