• ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    I’ll give you that but all the others are in my opinion completely unnecessary and just cause issues. To me anything other than a Philips head is completely unnecessary and deliberately over complicated.

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      14 hours ago

      I like the sentiment that there should be one awesome screw head used everywhere, even if it wouldn’t ever 100% happen.

      But phillips head is garbage. I agree with the other reply: torx all day long. Honestly, many of the others are good designs that could likewise handle a lot of torque with less tendency to cam out. But torx has kind of already become that standard, at least around me in the US.

      And, in my experience, it’s proven itself in the field. My non-tech hobbies have involved a lot of outdoor construction this year. I used an impact driver to bury big 6" screws all the way into pressure treated lumber about 1,000 times, and then about a thousand other smaller 2.5" - 3.5" outdoor screws. All of them were torx.

      And subjectively, the bit engages like a cylindrical gear but without any sharp corners. It seems like it should be easier to clean a screw dropped in the mud. I’ve had to do that more than once, but I didn’t do a comparison, lol.

      • reptar@lemmy.world
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        3 hours ago

        My non-tech hobbies have involved a lot of outdoor construction this year. I used an impact driver to bury big 6" screws all the way into pressure treated lumber about 1,000 times, and then about a thousand other smaller 2.5" - 3.5" outdoor screws. All of them were torx.

        Likewise!

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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        5 hours ago

        No because no one has a screwdriver that can fit it, they have to go out and explicitly buy one just so they can undo a screw.

        Unless something really super duper seriously needs to stay tightened a Phillips is the way to go. I don’t want to have to start a project only to have to go out and buy something that I’ll only ever use once because it’s some weird exotic screw head. Phillips is what data centres use to secure computers to server racks so it’s obviously pretty good.

        • Bluewing@lemmy.world
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          1 hour ago

          That just means it works OK for cheap flimsy sheet metal. But the philips head was originally designed to be a torque limiting fastener for assembly line use. It’s supposed to cam out when the worker’s simple air tool had the screw tightened down.

        • reptar@lemmy.world
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          3 hours ago

          If it works, it works. But I wouldn’t want to be driving Phillips head screws into wood when I’m building something.

        • greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          4 hours ago

          Carpenters these days almost exclusively use torx, drywall still uses Philips I guess. Also I only ever use a hand screwdriver with bolts unless something has gone very wrong. If we’re screwing I’ve got to use an impact driver, and finding a torx bit is super easy for those. They usually come in the box of screws.