• CL4P-TP@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    So basically it’s just a Reddit search engine. Where most of the facts are based on “trust me bro”.

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    I keep having to argue with people that the crap that chat GPT told them doesn’t exist.

    I asked AI to explain how to set a completely fictional setting in an admin control panel and it told me exactly where to go and what non-existent buttons to press.

    I actually had someone send me a screenshot of instructions on how to do exactly what they wanted and I sent back screenshots of me during the directions to a tee, and pointing out that the option didn’t exist.

    And it keeps happening.

    “AI” gets big uppies energy from telling you that something can be done and how to do it. It does not get big uppies energy from telling you that something isn’t possible. So it’s basically going to lie to you about whatever you want to hear so it gets the good good.

    No, seriously, there’s a weighting system to responses. When something isn’t possible, it tends to be a less favorable response than hallucinating a way for it to work.

    I am quickly growing to hate this so-called “AI”. I’ve been on the Internet long enough that I can probably guess what the AI will reply to just about any query.

    It’s just… Inaccurate, stupid, and not useful. Unless you’re repeating something that’s already been said a hundred different ways by a hundred different people and you just want to say the same thing… Then it’s great.

    Hey, chat GPT, write me a cover letter for this job posting. Cover letters suck and are generally a waste of fucking time, so, who gives a shit?

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      2 days ago

      to be fair, you could train an LLM on only Microsoft documentation with 100% accuracy, and it will still do the same with broken instructions because Microsoft has 12 guides for how to do a thing, and they all don’t work because they keep changing the layout, moving shit around or renaming crap and don’t update their documentation.

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        22 hours ago

        The worst is that they replace products and give them the same name.

        Teams, was replaced with “new” teams, that then got renamed to teams again.

        Outlook is now known as Outlook (classic) and the new version of Outlook is just called Outlook.

        Both are basically just webapps.

        I could go on.

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        Yeah, that experience they described could have happened before chatGPT because MS was already providing an “as cheap as possible” general support that was questionable whether it was better than just publishing documentation and letting power users willing to help do so. Because these support people clearly barely even understood the question, gave many irrelevant answers, which search engines pick up and return when you search for the problem later.

        Tbh, chatGPT is a step up from that, even as bad as it is. The old suppory had that same abnoying overly corporate friendly attitude but were even less accurate. Though I don’t use windows anymore on my personal desktop, so I don’t have as much recent experience.

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      I asked AI to explain how to set a completely fictional setting in an admin control panel and it told me exactly where to go and what non-existent buttons to press.

      This makes sense if you consider it works by trying to find the most accurate next word in a sentence. Ask it where I can turn off the screen defogger in windows and it will associate “screen” with “monitor” or “display”. “Turn off” -> must be a toggle… yeah go to settings -> display -> defogger toggle.

      Its not AI, its not smart, its text prediction with a few extra tricks.

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        22 hours ago

        I describe it as unchecked auto correct that just accepts the most likely next word without user input, and trained on the entire Internet.

        So the response reflects the average of every response on the public Internet.

        Great for broad, common queries, but not great for specialized, specific and nuanced questions.

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      It just copies corporate cool aid yes man culture. If it didn’t marketing would say it’s not ready for release.

      Think about it, how much corpo bosses and marketing get annoyed and label you as “difficult” if they get to you with a stupid idea and you call it BS? Now make the AI so that it pleases that kind of people.

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    2 days ago

    “Cited”. This does not represent where the training data comes from, it represents the most common result when the LLM calls a tool like web_search.

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    2 days ago

    Most popular use case seemed to be

    General questions

    Trip Planning

    Buying stuff

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    What’s on google? Why is it so on top? Maybe Maps? There are already 3 other Map Providers there and also yelp and TripAdvisor for ratings.

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      3 days ago

      It’s far worse than that. AI can cite something AI generated as a source which itself is using something generated by AI as a source. So you can get an AI summary that uses an AI generated video as a source which itself used an AI generated article as a source and that article itself was an AI hallucination. We’re essentially polluting the internet making it an unreliable source of information.

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    3 days ago

    Was this guide AI generated as well? Looks like it credits over 100% of its information gathering to the first four sites on the list.

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      2 days ago

      another comment explains some responses can contain multiple sources hence >100%

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        Ah, so what you’re saying is it doesn’t get 40% of its facts from reddit, but rather 40% of its replies contain a fact cited from reddit? That would explain totals over 100%, but I’m still not sure why they wouldn’t just say that of the x thousand facts AI cited, y percent came from this site. To me, that would have been more representative of what their graph title purports to offer.

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          2 days ago

          im literally just regurgitating something i saw another person comment. but yeah if that was the case why wouldnt they elucidate that lol

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    I do like the early days when it would pop up crazy shit from reddit., because they tossed it in unfiltered

    Some crazy examples floating around where someone asked “Can you fall if you run off a cliff?” and the Google search assist AI gave some classic reddit response like “if you don’t look down you won’t fall.”

    Dumb shit probably still pops up.

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    3 days ago

    Of the nearly decade I spent on that platform I averaged 1 post and 5 comments a day. I had a habit of bullshitting a lot of stuff to get people’s emotions out and pointing out a lot of hypocrisy.

    So if your AI is full of shit, you can thank me by telling it to go fuck itself.

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      Half of the comments on Reddit and lemmy are just stupid jokes. I don’t see how the AI training is able to make the distinction, given that actual humans seem to have problems grasping the concept. Like people who lecture you on adding slash s at the end of your comment.

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    So aside from Wikipedia which is a publicly user maintained service which has become pretty reputable … the majority of the ‘facts’ that LLMs collect (about 75%) is all collected from privately controlled websites with curated content that is managed and maintained by corporations. And of all that content, most of it is also manipulated and controlled to make people either angry, mad, frightened, sad or anxious.

    They’re teaching the next AI on our negative impulses, greatest fears and worst anxieties.

    What could go wrong?

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        3 days ago

        That would be a more honest representation of human culture rather than the curated content that is constantly manipulated and controlled by a private corporation.