Yes, but there’s only one of those possible uses that immediately comes to most people’s mind when you use the term firearm death / fatality / injury / etc. If you don’t specify that all of these are included in your statistic then you are leaving the door open for wildly misleading uses of this information. That is explicitly the opposite of the intent behind statistical analysis.
I think I’m a part of most people and I’m well aware that firearms kill people a lot of ways. It’s not just school mass shootings, police brutality, and gangs. Most Americans know, or at least know of, someone who killed themselves with a gun. And many know someone who shot someone by accident.
In other words, you’re fine with leaving room for misinterpretation because you personally have enough background info to understand the context. Cool cool
I’d like to direct your attention to “poisoning,” which is even more vague.
I suppose a person with bad intentions could deliberately pull any of the individual numbers out of context and use it as “evidence” for their political point.
But anyone who reads the whole thing is going to notice that most of the categories include suicides as an unstated percentage. Especially “accidents.”
Yes, and as was pointed out elsewhere poisoning is a very misleading category as well because it includes drug overdoses which is not immediately obvious in much the same way as we are discussing with firearms.
I’m not sure what you think you’re accomplishing here though. You seem to be agreeing with me that some of these categories have the potential to be misunderstood and yet you’re presenting an additional data point that helps make that case as if it disproves what I am saying. Are you just categorically opposed to agreeing with someone else without being a dick about it?
I’m simply stating that it’s not so difficult for anyone to see these are general categories and don’t imply anything about intent. I’m not trying to be a dick, and I certainly hope you’re not either. It’s okay for you to have a different opinion from others.
Suicides and murders and accidents, in each case it’s the killing efficiency of firearms that makes such high rates possible.
Yes, but there’s only one of those possible uses that immediately comes to most people’s mind when you use the term firearm death / fatality / injury / etc. If you don’t specify that all of these are included in your statistic then you are leaving the door open for wildly misleading uses of this information. That is explicitly the opposite of the intent behind statistical analysis.
I think I’m a part of most people and I’m well aware that firearms kill people a lot of ways. It’s not just school mass shootings, police brutality, and gangs. Most Americans know, or at least know of, someone who killed themselves with a gun. And many know someone who shot someone by accident.
In other words, you’re fine with leaving room for misinterpretation because you personally have enough background info to understand the context. Cool cool
I’d like to direct your attention to “poisoning,” which is even more vague.
I suppose a person with bad intentions could deliberately pull any of the individual numbers out of context and use it as “evidence” for their political point.
But anyone who reads the whole thing is going to notice that most of the categories include suicides as an unstated percentage. Especially “accidents.”
Yes, and as was pointed out elsewhere poisoning is a very misleading category as well because it includes drug overdoses which is not immediately obvious in much the same way as we are discussing with firearms.
I’m not sure what you think you’re accomplishing here though. You seem to be agreeing with me that some of these categories have the potential to be misunderstood and yet you’re presenting an additional data point that helps make that case as if it disproves what I am saying. Are you just categorically opposed to agreeing with someone else without being a dick about it?
I’m simply stating that it’s not so difficult for anyone to see these are general categories and don’t imply anything about intent. I’m not trying to be a dick, and I certainly hope you’re not either. It’s okay for you to have a different opinion from others.