I dont care if kids see tits. They’ll live.
Get off my ass about what your children do in your house. If the internet is not for them - great. Assume everyone here is an adult, and move the fuck on.
Like the folks buying this legislation are not pedophiles themselves. It is for spying plane and simple.
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It is important to also reject the excuse.
I’m not wasting any time bickering about whether this achieves its stated goals because fuck its stated goals.
The age checkpoint results so far in the UK:
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Not-for-profits and community groups which formerly had their own websites feel forced to move onto big social media platforms to avoid liability under the law.
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The wrong types of content are being taken down.
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“Age assurance” is applied widely to anything the slightest bit risky.
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The list of websites that have shut down or started to geoblock the UK continues to grow.
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There are constant reports of “age estimation” not working correctly — blocking people who should be allowed through and allowing those who shouldn’t.
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People are angry about it, and have responded by resorting to VPNs and other such tools in unprecedented numbers.
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Perhaps emboldened by all this success in protecting the children, the government is now threatening all-out war on general-purpose computing in the form of requiring that devices “supplied for use in the UK must have installed tamper-proof system software” to scan for CSAM.
But it’s only been a few months, I’m sure there’s much more to come.
Point 1 tells me who wanted this the most. Facebook is a fucking cesspit that I stopped looking at ages ago and seemed like people moving away from it. They are now becoming a hub again since people are forced into it.
And Zuckerberg is a reptile who guards his own privacy to impossible extremes while wanting to know every single tiny detail about us.
I’ll throw my phone in the goddamn lake first.
Be sure to smash it and apply a blowtorch to it first to render the SSD card and all electronics useless.
Number 1 is a big one. The overhead for checking all this will kill off all the small players on the internet. It will become a playground for only the large corporations and the internet will become a shell of its old self.
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Why are we ruining everything instead of telling parents who don’t set up parental controls the morons they are?
I’m not saying I want kids to look at adult content, I am saying that this technology, as is, is a massive fucking liability.
It can trivially leak, as we’ve seen with dozens of platforms including major ones. It can trivially be used for blackmail. It’s invasive.
It’s BAD technology and bad legislation.
This isn’t even better than nothing, this is creating entire new problems that didn’t exist before, while being trivial for motivated kids to bypass.
This is building the torment nexus.
Who in their right mind is saying giving third parties our verified info to link to porn and posting anything on the internet is a good idea, except absolute fucking fascists.
If you want this, make it so browsers have to send an age token in their request headers to access adult content, and require major browsers to support that. That’s basically adding child lock and doesn’t create issues.
Can kids get around it? Yes, but not on iOS or Android without side loading, and not on windows or macOS without disabling parental controls and code signing.
Besides, with this idea one kid will steal their parents account info and share it. You can’t prevent that.
You can’t get votes telling people to take responsibility for their children or that they’re morons.
Parenting takes effort. Kinda like getting out and voting. And we know how the Americans feel about the latter.
This article is about the Canadian senate
Projects like tor really are going to be our salvation
Can you not at least wait a couple of years to see how the ongoing disaster in the UK unfolds? Will their age checkpoints become a mild nuisance that is routinely bypassed by everyone other than the most horny and gullible? Or will they reinvent the Great Firewall as they attempt to block websites, ban VPNs, and shut down whatever convenient means to evade the checkpoints becomes popular next.
But no, the biometric data ghouls are keen to lead Canada down that same road, regardless of where it leads. Our politicians are helpless to resist the finely crafted illusions of their lobbyists, which have been gradually perfected as they infiltrate one country after another. Will there be a free world left, when it’s over? I wonder which language I should start learning.
Discord just recently had data breaches of thousands of ids in the UK, the British government is now looking to ban vpns. It’s bad policy plain as day.
now looking to ban vpns
I hope Canada is smart enough to realize how the bulk of knowledge work in their own government is done. Hint: things are gonna suck soon.
Can you not at least wait a couple of years to see how the ongoing disaster in the UK unfolds?
No. They know it’s terrible. That’s why they have to push it through now.
They need to further the surveillance state.
Once captured by the law – sites that deliberately transmit pornographic materials to minors and do not use government-approved age verification or age estimation technologies – the enforcement side kicks in. The enforcement of the bill is left to the designated regulatory agency, which can issue notifications of violations to websites and services. Those notices can include the steps the agency wants followed to bring the site into compliance. This literally means the government via its regulatory agency will dictate to sites how they must interact with users to ensure no underage access. If the site fails to act as instructed within 20 days, the regulator can apply for a court order mandating that Canadian ISPs block the site from their subscribers. The regulator would be required to identify which ISPs are subject to the blocking order.
Bill S-209 is better than its predecessor as it seeks to exclude search and other incidental distribution, adopts a new standalone definition for pornographic materials, and sets a higher bar for the technology itself. Yet many concerns remain: the bill still envisions court ordered website blocking, including blocking access to lawful content by those entitled to access it. In fact, the bill expressly states that the effect of the blocking may “have the effect of preventing persons in Canada from being able to access material other than pornographic material made available by the organization.” Orders that knowingly block lawful content is certain to raise Charter of Rights challenges.
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annnnnd the NDP sided with the Cons on this one.
I’m never voting NDP ever again. cowardice shills. And I don’t even like the Liberals.
Ignore what I posted. I’m a dumbass, and that was actually even older news.
So, People’s Party of Canada it is /s
All this really does is kill commercial websites and brings back independent sites. I’m not for this bill at all, but people can just stop using those services—and the world would be a better place.
People still use Amazon.
any organization making available pornographic material
Amazon Porn != Amazon Prime
So… backdoors for rich people and members of the us govt?
