Wrong question. The right question is “how are we failing women too?”
Wrong, the right observation is "reality doesn’t support my assertions.
Men don’t attend therapy at the rates you think they should. Men are highly resistant to what you are offering.
When I said this you said I was victim blaming. They are, we agree. I said we need to get men into therapy and you got upset with me.
I’ve shown you a reason why men don’t go into therapy, you took some imagined offence. Please God listen. It is well discussed why men do not go to therapy, you only just learned what TM meant yesterday. Now is not the time for your to provide assertions, without evidence, for a concept you just learned about yesterday.
Your proffered solution to that isn’t to make your offering more palatable. Your solution is to blame them and tell them to suck it up.
That’s called a lie. Do better.
Me: “Whatever. Maybe we could try serving something that he might actually enjoy?”
You haven’t done that. Vegetables work for the people they work for.
Vegitables are much better than sitting at home chronicaly masturbating as you JAQed off. We have a society that pressures boys not to eat vegitables. It was foolish of you to suggest. It was harmful of you to suggest when the aim is to get boys eating healthy. That’s bad I would like to releave that pressure.
I like the healthy eating framing. We know healthy eating is just as benefital to little boys as to girls. We know little boys eat less healthy than little girls. We also know society puts pressure on little boys to not eat healthy.
It isn’t society putting pressure on little boys to not eat healthy, there’s just something anti-boy about eating healthy.
It isn’t society putting pressure on little boys to not eat healthy, there’s just something anti-boy about eating healthy.
Turns out Little Johnny doesn’t actually hate vegetables. Turns out all you’re serving is mushy green beans. Turns out he actually likes romaine lettuce and snow peas and carrots and spinach. But you’ve got it stuck in your head that mushy green beans are the only healthy option you can think to offer. Anyone turning up their nose at green beans is simply “unhealthy”.
Motivational Interviewing, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Trauma Therapy, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, Psychiatry Sessions, and more
there isn’t just mushy peas. He is being offered green beans, romain, fennel, all the things.
Turns out all you’re serving is mushy green beans.
This statement is false. Incredibly false. Harmfully false.
But, society tells him little boys don’t eat vegetables so he never trys Romain to find out he likes it.
Other men say that vegetables is as useful as staying at home masturbating. So he never trys Romain to find out he likes it.
Other men tell him all he will be offered is mushy green bean, so he doesn’t even know Romain was an option. He doesn’t try it to know he likes it.
I’m saying let’s get little boys trying vegetables. Let’s get vulnerable men, that would otherwise kills themselves, in therapy. Data shows it works.
Which is more conductive to little Johnny trying vegetables? Me saying we need to get little boys eating vegetables (how does he learn he likes romain without eating one, and vegetables are good for little boys (with provided link)? Or you suggesting it’s as useful as a placebo (not true), and he’ll only be offered mushy green beans (not true)? You want Johnny to discover Romain? Act like it.
I am curious. Which is the only therapy you believe I’m offering. Of all the therapies, which is the one? Why that one? With quotes please. I have mentioned one. But I didn’t even imply it was the only one. You inferred I’m only offering one from nothing.
Wrong, the right observation is "reality doesn’t support my assertions.
When I said this you said I was victim blaming. They are, we agree. I said we need to get men into therapy and you got upset with me.
I’ve shown you a reason why men don’t go into therapy, you took some imagined offence. Please God listen. It is well discussed why men do not go to therapy, you only just learned what TM meant yesterday. Now is not the time for your to provide assertions, without evidence, for a concept you just learned about yesterday.
That’s called a lie. Do better.
You haven’t done that. Vegetables work for the people they work for.
Vegitables are much better than sitting at home chronicaly masturbating as you JAQed off. We have a society that pressures boys not to eat vegitables. It was foolish of you to suggest. It was harmful of you to suggest when the aim is to get boys eating healthy. That’s bad I would like to releave that pressure.
I like the healthy eating framing. We know healthy eating is just as benefital to little boys as to girls. We know little boys eat less healthy than little girls. We also know society puts pressure on little boys to not eat healthy.
It isn’t society putting pressure on little boys to not eat healthy, there’s just something anti-boy about eating healthy.
Do I have your position right?
Turns out Little Johnny doesn’t actually hate vegetables. Turns out all you’re serving is mushy green beans. Turns out he actually likes romaine lettuce and snow peas and carrots and spinach. But you’ve got it stuck in your head that mushy green beans are the only healthy option you can think to offer. Anyone turning up their nose at green beans is simply “unhealthy”.
There’s a bunch of therapy types such as:
Motivational Interviewing, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Trauma Therapy, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, Psychiatry Sessions, and more
there isn’t just mushy peas. He is being offered green beans, romain, fennel, all the things.
This statement is false. Incredibly false. Harmfully false.
But, society tells him little boys don’t eat vegetables so he never trys Romain to find out he likes it.
Other men say that vegetables is as useful as staying at home masturbating. So he never trys Romain to find out he likes it.
Other men tell him all he will be offered is mushy green bean, so he doesn’t even know Romain was an option. He doesn’t try it to know he likes it.
I’m saying let’s get little boys trying vegetables. Let’s get vulnerable men, that would otherwise kills themselves, in therapy. Data shows it works.
Which is more conductive to little Johnny trying vegetables? Me saying we need to get little boys eating vegetables (how does he learn he likes romain without eating one, and vegetables are good for little boys (with provided link)? Or you suggesting it’s as useful as a placebo (not true), and he’ll only be offered mushy green beans (not true)? You want Johnny to discover Romain? Act like it.
I am curious. Which is the only therapy you believe I’m offering. Of all the therapies, which is the one? Why that one? With quotes please. I have mentioned one. But I didn’t even imply it was the only one. You inferred I’m only offering one from nothing.