cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/53308292
Public Safety Minister Gary Anandasangaree is heralding the test run of the government’s marquee gun control policy as a success — despite the pilot receiving low uptake.
Since 2020 Ottawa has banned some 2,500 types of firearms. The government has argued the makes and models on its list are for warfare — not hunters and sport shooters.
The policy has faced opposition from the Conservatives and firearm-rights groups who argue the move punishes law-abiding gun owners instead of going after criminals.
In response, the government promised to buy back those firearms as a way to fairly compensate owners.
A test run of the buyback program had little pickup. At the outset Ottawa had hoped to collect 200 firearms during a six-week pilot in Cape Breton, N.S. — instead just 25 were surrendered from 16 people.
The results, made public last week, are raising questions how the more than $700-million program will work when it’s rolled out coast to coast.
“As an overall pilot, I believe it is successful,” said Anandasangaree during a news conference on Monday.
“We wanted to test the capabilities that we have to both be able to register as well as recover the firearms that people wanted to voluntarily hand over to us.”
Anandasangaree maintained the pilot wasn’t about “quantitative” results.
“When we roll out the program in its full form in the upcoming weeks, we do anticipate much greater uptake,” he said.
“We were able to correct a number of issues that people had identified, both on the online portal and in other means. And I believe we’re well poised to be able to launch the program in the coming weeks.”
His department would not say which makes and models were returned during the pilot.
Some provinces vowing pushback
Low uptake isn’t the only problem facing the program. Few provinces and police forces have officially signed on.
Alberta’s government released a detailed plan in December to fight the program, calling it an unconstitutional attack on its citizens’ rights.
Under proposed legislation, Alberta said it will take all reasonable steps to ensure that neither the government, nor any “provincial entity” participates in the implementation or enforcement of the federal policy.
Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe has also vowed to fight the program while Ontario Premier Doug Ford has said he doesn’t want provincial money funding the collection.
So far Ottawa has announced one agreement to support the program: a $12.4-million deal with Quebec.
The RCMP and Quebec provincial police, along with the Cape Breton, Halifax and Winnipeg police services, have also agreed to take part.
Public Safety Canada said it didn’t have an estimate of how many guns it intends to collect during the national rollout.
The amnesty period for possessing a banned firearm comes to an end later this year. Owners have until Oct. 30 to dispose or deactivate their listed firearms or face legal consequences.
What a waste of resources. It won’t do what its supposed to do, it’ll cost us a bunch of money, and even the minister knows it’s a bullshit program.
All to keep a few votes in Montreal.
We have people with guns about to be illegal.
We have a 300,000 perspn deficit in the supplementary reserve.
So we make a new type of PAL, where you need to be on the supplementary reserve list to own whatever gun the government has decided is now on the list.
Two birds stoned at once.
i agree with this to some extent, the Restricted class of firearms is currently pointless, there are no restricted firearms on the market right now because they have all been prohibited.
I would argue and say they should fix the Restricted category before introducing another one or incorporate your idea into it.
Sure, these all become restricted, condition for RPAL is being on the Sup Res list.
It’s common in other countries, I got the idea from the Ukrainians what any version fo PAL comes with being on the reserve list.
Something worth noting -
Since 2020 Ottawa has banned some 2,500 types of firearms. The government has argued the makes and models on its list are for warfare — not hunters and sport shooters.
If these are weapons of warfare then why aren’t we sending the CAF into battle with .22Lr semiautomatic rifles with magazines pinned to 10 rounds?
For those not familiar with the different types of firearm calibers see the image below, essentially a .22Lr is for plinking pop cans and teaching beginners on how firearms operate safely, no sane person will say a .22Lr is meant for warfare.
Anandasangaree maintained the pilot wasn’t about “quantitative” results.
Isn’t this the whole point of the program? To get “guns off our streets”?
I’m really starting to doubt Canada’s gun laws and their impact on gun elated crimes. And with what’s happening down south, I’m thinking maybe Canadians with guns might not be such a bad idea.
Preface: I am solidly on the left, and I have over a dozen guns.
This is probably the only thing that I wish Carney wasn’t doing. Not because I love my guns - in fact I could use the money from a buy back, I don’t hunt any more, and I have been too busy to go shooting recently.
But staring down the Trump threats, I’m starting to reconsider what I’m going to do.
I am looking to rejoin the reserves part time, even though I’m old now, so in a military conflict I expect I would have some access to weapons. However, I want my family to have them if they need them.
This situation with the US has changed everything.
By the way, I’m getting my RPAS and learning to build and fly drones. It seems those skills can be as useful, perhaps even more useful.
The states so far has only shown to me that letting people have guns means that the majority of gun holders are the people you don’t want holding guns… Like ICE, and bootlickers.
My brother has a temper, and owns a ton of them up in nothern Ontario. Said he should have the right to shoot anyone trespassing, or threatening his family lives. He tried to buy an illegal suppresor off of my mother’s amazon, instead of his. I think his guns should be taken away.
You can call the cheif firearms office and report individuals you belive to be unfit to safely own guns. The authorities will typically follow up with various interviews, maybe a compliance check for storage etc and could take their guns and lisence away if they deem him unfit to own them.
@CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works please follow this persons advice! If you believe they’re a threat to an individuals safety do all licensed firearms owners a favour and report them to your local CFO (Chief Firearms Officer).
Otherwise the unspeakable may occur and all law-abiding licensed firearms owners will all be treated like criminals once again.
That sounds nerve racking. My bother also owns guns but in my opinion he’s one of the few I’m more than OK with. He’s always ranting about the bans as though they’re an affront to those who have better vetting than most peace officers in Canada. While that may be true, those gun holders are well documented. The ones we worry about the most are not.
I’m really starting to doubt Canada’s gun laws and their impact on gun elated crimes.
Regulations work, there is no doubt about that otherwise we would be looking a whole lot like the US right now.
I’m thinking maybe Canadians with guns might not be such a bad idea.
There are 2.3 Million of us! if you’re Canadian and never seen, heard, held or shot a firearm I highly suggest trying it once at a local firing range where you can be shown safe handling.
Oh absolutely! Regulation works. There is no doubt. But we already have strong gun laws. Gun related crimes have never been so low. But the crimes that do happen are in great majority with unregistered weapons bought on the black market coming from the U.S.
And yes! I am totally up or going to a gun range to learn about how to use firearms. A friend of mine became a hobbyist and might take me :)
