• SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.deBanned from community
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    I stated that the present EU is a hell hole, but oligarch Russia, imperialist america and authoritarian capitalist china are better at being a hell hole nothing more and nothing less.

    You imaging me not standing for Gaza or loving colonialism is typical tankie “if your not a Stalinist you must be a neoliberal” is so telling.

    You make up a picture in your head, where you are the good guys, everyone else is evil, and nuances dont exist. Same attitude as maga, puti lovers or ai fanboys, just different made up narrative.

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      The EU is imperialist, just like the US. Russia is run by oligarchs, true, but China is both democratic and a socialist country.

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      Explicitly tell me how the EU is less bad, let’s discuss facts. And no, I didn’t assume your position on Gaza or whatever else, I explained what the European leadership’s position is.

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        Freedom of expression Freedom of assembly Surveillance state Freedom of press / censorship Privacy rights Medical security (at least better than USA and russia, dont know enough about chinas medical system to judge) Queer rights Climate destruction (EU is worse than china but better than Russia and USA by relative standards)

        Not to say anything of those is good here, just not as bad

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          Freedom of expression unless you want to wear a hijab.

          Freedom of assembly unless you’re holding a pro Palestine sign.

          Right to privacy unless the US government wants your data.

          Freedom of press unless you write pro Russian articles.

          Medical security unless you’re disabled or can’t work.

          Queer rights unless you’re trans.

          Wow sounds like the lesser evil for sure. Definitely a region worth celebrating

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            All valid criticism I would share (even if not to that degree) . That’s why I said its a capitalist hell hole and never celebrated anything (found your little strawman;)

            Now you tell me: in which of the three others mentioned in the meme the situation is better?

            P.S: There are a lot of pro Palestine demos, I go to them once a month, my grandpa is disabled and nearly everything is covered by inssurcance, I have never heard of censorship of pro Russian articles (but like Gaza, mainstream media will be very biased, which is a problem), trans people face no legal discrimination (but authoritarian and conservatives try to change that, which is a major problem)

            Dont get me wrong, I think the EU is an imperialistic system with lots of problems which need to be abolished in favor of a better, classless society. Still the material conditions to do that are better than in the 3 world powers at the moment