Following the events in Iran, Alexandre Boulerice, NDP Foreign Affairs Critic, issued the following statement:
"The NDP strongly condemns the American and Israeli bombings of Iran. This is a dangerous escalation that risks dragging the entire region into a major conflict. The oppressive and bloody regime of the Ayatollahs is reprehensible, but its nuclear program must be managed through the United Nations and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). In fact, its Director General, Mr. Grossi, recently indicated that he was working with the Iranian administration to resume inspections and reiterated that there could be no solution other than a diplomatic one.
The NDP deplores the Carney government’s decision to blindly support this dangerous venture by Israel and Donald Trump’s administration. We want Canada to be a voice for diplomacy, peace, and international law."
Nah that’s a silly antisemitic trope, refuted easily by the simple fact that Canada recognized Palestine a few months ago.
It is not antisemetic trope progaganda. Recognition means nothing when you deny that occupation and genocide is real, when you do nothing against occupied land being sold in canadian synaguoges, whrn you have idf soldiers speaking in canadian schools and ehen you deny paledtinians right under internstional laws like having the right to an army and the right to return .
He is even lying about the embargo on arms to israel
Saying that Israel controls the world’s governments is an antisemitic trope that is entirely unnecessary for condemning Israeli apartheid and the Gaza genocide. I brought up the recognition of Palestine not to say that Canada has a pro-palestinine policy, but to make the simple point that our policy is not controlled by Israel (if we were, we would not have done it).
Does there exist a big pro-israel bias in western mainstream politics? Yes. But that is not *control". Control implies absolute power on the part of the controller and lack of agency on the part of the controlled.
No it is not . Israel do not represent all jews and will never do. Let start for the start even before the creation of the state Zionists who create the state killed multiple jews they ever directly ordered the assassination of an anti Zionist jew journalist named Jacob Israël de Haan. Many jews at that time even rejected the idea of a Jewish state is necessary especially not one created by ethnically cleansing the local population . Israel did sterilize Ethiopian jews unvoluntary, you can also see how they call some other jews with the term self hating jews and you can see videos of Israeli police attacking anti occupation jews
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2013-01-27/ty-article/.premium/ethiopians-fooled-into-birth-control/0000017f-f512-d044-adff-f7fb92c30000
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cw6NWdg-nT0
So based on all of the facts saying Israel control a country is not antisemitic although I disagree with those people who believe it
Words with no action and without acknowledging the nature of the conflict is called hypocrisy my friend. Everybody know that Palestine is occupied and the nature of occupation is a settler colonialism one so why did it take 78 years to finally pretend to support recognition of Palestine. It is a shame that many got fooled by politicians words. A state with not all it’s right that international laws give them is not a real state . Carney is saying that the victims of settler colonialism should not have an army to defend itself when it is free but Israel have just to return part of the west bank and nothing else.
Netenyahu as the head of the government decided to put extremists like ben gvir in his government. Netenyahu as the head of the government is the one who is approving more settlements aka colonies so he bring more settlers that are harrasing, beating and killing west bankers so the sanctions just be on Netenyahu himself and the state of Israel. Carney did not ask to investigate the selling of west bank occupied land in Canadian synagogues All of this show that Carney is lying about opposing settlements
Here 18 years of documentation of Israel crimes by an israeli human right organization
https://www.youtube.com/@btselem/videos
Pretty presumptuous of you to assume that someone pointing out antisemitism to you needs a lesson on all the ways the genocidal Israeli apartheid regime is a genocidal apartheid regime.
Beyond that I’ve nothing to add to what I previously wrote. It’s pretty clear.
Don’t repeat Zionist propaganda, then. There’s nothing antisemitic about saying Israel controls the USA, although I disagree that it is the case
I’m not going to debate this silliness. Educate yourself.
I am educated. Your logic makes zero sense you agree that Israel don’t represent jews at the same time you are implying that saying Israel control the USA means jews control the USA. It effing doesn’t
Sigh. Multiple things can be true simultaneously. Israel doesn’t represent all Jews. Israel doesn’t have to represent all Jews for people to ascribe to it classic antisemitic tropes. Calling out those antisemitic tropes because perpetuating them hurts all Jews is not spreading Israeli propaganda.
It’s not that hard.
I can keep going. This is the kind of hair splitting you need to be able to do if you want to call yourself educated.
Here’s the thing though: Israel would not exist without the US, but the US would exist without Israel.
So, the idea that it’s some (((Israeli puppet masters))) controlling the US, rather than the US being ultimately in charge, is indeed an antisemitic trope — one which we are seeing pushed by US far-right influencers who, wouldn’t you know it, are rabid antisemites.
Edit: I do agree however that Canada’s recognition of the Palestinian state was pretty hollow
Conflating antisemitism with antizionism is what is realty antisemitic. Israel have Muslims and Christians who some even agree with the policies of occupation and are joining the occupation force. So the idea that saying Israel is doing this is antisemites is some BS .
Are you denying that aipac is not influencing congressman and put pressure on them to agree with Israel policies of settler colonialism? Do you really think there is no similar lobby in Canada that try to shut down anti occupation supporters?
I agree israel do not control the USA it is about serving their own perspective evil interests but people who don’t see that are not necessarly antisemitic but just naive and think usa support for israel is unconditionally for no reasons
I am not conflating antisemitism with anti-zionism. My point is that Trump and his cabinet (and the Dem leadership) are Zionists. Earlier you implied that Trump is having his “strings pulled”. All I am saying is, that’s not the power dynamic here.
Edit: sorry — the strings pulled comment was someone else. But it was the context for my reply
You heard the word Israel you immediately thought about jews you are indeed conflating both. I never applied that Trump is having his “strings pulled”. I am one of the very few online who reject the idea that Trump is going to war just for Israel alone and that israel is blackmailing him to murder people
See my edit to the last post - and tbh I think we actually agree on all this.
I am more bothered at how you hear Israel you automatically think of Jews as if all jews support Israel policies and Zionism
Please at least listen and give me the benefit of the doubt here.
The thing I objected to is the “trump having his strings pulled” part which plays into to well-worn antisemitic tropes of a cabal of Jews running the world like puppeteers.
I’ll admit that there is some ambiguity in how to read that initial comment, however, and I can totally understand where you’re coming from with your reading of what they said initially.
The Majority Report did a good short segment recently about this. I was just about to see if I could find it, and I’ll post it if I do.
Edit: here’s the clip. The point I am trying to make is explained at around the 5-6 minute span. (For the record, so there’s no confusion, I am posting this edit after a few more comments back and forth following this one) https://youtu.be/XhSuQpFPhwo
Hmm true, maybe they were making nukes then… I seriously doubt at this stage carney would want to work with the US on anything with Donald around,