• AGM@lemmy.ca
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    13 hours ago

    Look at how much of a hot button issue immigration has been in Canada already over recent years.

    How’s the “join the EU” discourse going to go when Canadians realize it would mean any of the 450 million European citizens could move to Canada as they wished?

    How about when Canadians realize Brussels would control the distribution of asylum seekers for the whole EU and could decide to just send whatever number of migrants Brussels deemed appropriate from the migrant crisis Europe has been facing and that will no doubt grow as climate change and war drive more migration in Eurasia?

    That’s just one example, but my guess is that Canadians may like the sound of joining the EU because we like Europe, but the idea would tarnish pretty quickly when looking into all the details.

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      Huh, my take is the exact inverse. The EU is structurally averse to external immigration in almost all its aspects, whereas we are a constitutionally multicultural settler society with a long term structural reliance on immigration.

      The recent course-correction to lower immigration levels is just that, a correction to a larger more long term direction without changing the fundamentals of that direction. We need to be able to have immigration policies that are much more open than what the Europeans can tolerate.

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    22 hours ago

    We should definitely have closer relationships with the EU. But we should not join outright. We don’t need the Euro and we definitely don’t need the European Stability and Growth Pact. The Canadian economy should not get too tired up to the European one. We are not the UK, we don’t need this, it would be a weight not a booster. And I’m saying this as a dual Canadian-EU citizen.

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    2 days ago

    The hilarious irony is that if we did this, Quebec would have to change all their “Arrêt” signs to “Stop” to comply with EU signage standards

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    2 days ago

    Carney said this is not an option he’s pushing for currently. But he wants to grow closer to EU. But WHAT this French FM has suggested does give Carney and Canada leverage as we negotiate with Trump for a new CUSMA.

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      2 days ago

      What Carney says publicly doesn’t always seem to reflect what Carney is actually doing behind the scenes. Unfortunately, I understand why Trump’s childish reactionary politics make such dishonestly and subterfuge necessary because we are very vulnerable to his tantrums, and enduring his petulant tantrums is counterproductive to the effort of actually getting us to the position where we no longer have to suffer from his tantrums anymore.

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        I doubt that Carney is actually trying to get us to join the EU right now. He would need a strong public mandate to do something like that, and right now he doesn’t have that

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      2 days ago

      and the EU!

      WWT. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. We hope it’d be better for the EU too.

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    oh god i hope so, it would put Donald Canada threats to rest (ok maybe not rest but it’d hold no weight anymore) and put us in a way stronger negotiation potion with the USA when donald is finally gone and begins putting itself back together.

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    2 days ago

    This is good because it hints there is more going on behind the scenes, which must make Trump nervous.

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      At this point, if he freaks and decides to liberate us, I’m reasonably confident our primary schools’ elite kamikaze kite flying squadron would be enough to embarrass them.