Really want an honest answer here and not a full blown Linux cult answer.

I’m a new dad (kid is 1.5months old) who used to game pretty hard and do music production in cakewalk and ableton, but the crotch goblin is getting in the way. With windows 10 support coming to an end, I’m faced with a choice to either jump on the Linux train or take the safe way out and eat win11. Please keep in mind that I run a super clean machine (no porn (that’s what mobile is for) or tormenting or anything sketch) and have no intention of doing anything unclean. I have a lot of music prod data that I don’t want fucked and a steam library that I want access to but don’t really care about the data associated with them (saves, profiles…i could care less). So it’s really my ableton and Cakewalk files I want to keep. There was a time I college 2010-2011 where I borrowed a CS majors Ubuntu laptop for a few months to just get work done (just webbrowsing and office app stuff). Shit was annoying and difficult to understand but I was able to make it work-ish.

I’m savvy enough where I can adult Lego a PC together but struggle when it comes to software and troubleshooting and really don’t have the time for that stuff.

Basically, I’m not in the position right now to learn a distro and struggle around with all that crap and I need to keep my music shit. I also despise Microsoft and AI in general but I’m perfectly fine just eating it for simplicity. Is there a low effort Linux solution to my situation? Looking for automatic updates where I just click “express install i don’t fucking care” and im not searching for drivers every day.

My build is basically what’s shown below minus the SLI’d 1080s and with 32gbDDR4. Any upgrade apart from the gpu would essentially mean a wholesale at this point. I used the 2nd card to build my wife a pc since SLI is effectively useless now.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/3h4CmG

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    Your win10 computer doesn’t get nuked from orbit after magic date. Others pointed out music software is not portable enough.

    I got a new win11 computer with space for linux. Can remote desktop (free options) into old computer. This is more convenient than dual booting. If you don’t use internet or install new software, not much will break on it. My old computer didn’t work for linux because of waking from sleep issues. My new computer is $450usd minipc 7840hs dual lan, 2 usb4 ports, that allows me to expand from 3 to 4 monitors with a desk edge portable touchscreen usb monitor. win11 is not that bad because it allows for a single task bar on the front monitor. The iGPU is a big upgrade over 1650super I had, and 32gb/1gb nvme is also an upgrade that gives me the room to install linux. I haven’t yet.

    Linux is pretty easy for software installs. Mint is a good choice, because google will have the most hits. There are some distros that come with closed GPU drivers, but that is not particularly difficult to do yourself. win11 on a new computer can be ok, though, but I have had issues with every monitor waking from sleep every time (unplug/replug solution), or sleep command not lasting more than 3 minutes. Boot time is much quicker on new computer though, so shutdown not as painful. But if sleep worked flawlessly on this one in linux, would be good reason to go with.

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    I use Windows 11 for work and honestly don’t know why so many folks complain about it. I like working in it better than 10.

    The forced Microsoft login is absolutely a valid privacy concern - I get that. The copilot integration is annoying and not helpful but can be turned off. The general UI and compatibility is pretty good. I’d just go ahead and upgrade to 11.

    I had my first kid a little over 2 years ago, and my interest in twiddling with my OS plummeted. I use Linux, and it’s great for what I do, but I don’t do any sound stuff. I bet you could do it but that there’d be a lot of twiddling with your OS.

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    Not the exact answer you’re looking for, but a $500 Mac mini would be a fantastic solution. That or an entry level MacBook Air.

    I run Linux on my desktop for most things but all my music production is done on MacBooks. If you want a turn key solution, this is the way.

    Every vst, midi device and mixing console I have just works. Well worth the sub $1000 investment.

    Hell, my touring setup runs off a 8 year old MacBook Pro you could likely pick up for under $400.

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    Of note: Microsoft is offering an extended support program for Windows 10 consumers. It’s $30, or free if you opt in to Windows Backup, or you can buy it with Microsoft Rewards points. I would see if you have any of those points and go that route. It means you can delay 11 safely for another year.

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    “Basically, I’m not in the position right now to learn a distro and struggle around with all that crap and I need to keep my music shit.”

    If you don’t want to have to learn anything new, then switching your OS to something you don’t know how to use is a stupid idea.

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    For music production on a hobby level? Linux is not what you want.

    The VST availability is abysmal. For a DAW, you can choose between Reaper and Ardour. Both are reasonably good, but without decent third party VSTs you’ll suffer. You won’t get iLok working, you won’t get any commercial plugins working. Your old project files won’t open.

    Now, if you are exclusively working with Airwindows plugins (look it up!) in Reaper, you could get away with a Linux migration. Cakewalk and Ableton? Not a chance in hell.

    Go buy a cheap used 16GB M1 Mac Mini. Music production stuff ”just works”. Given your config, looks like that could be within budget. Or upgrade your old machine to Windows 11, pick your poison.

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      I will have to disagree with that, as you can use Yabridge for the Windows VST’s when using Wine, provided they don’t require iLok. While yes, there is an issue with iLok (because I think they hate Linux users), you could still get a great selection of things specifically for the likes of Ardour, Reaper, Bitwig, LMMS, and other options. My producer, Neigsendoig, and I use Ardour and Zrythm. As for Cakewalk and Ableton, I could see how they don’t work. Apparently, FL Studio can with WINE ASIO from what Neigsendoig researched.

      Neither of us would recommend a Mac at all, due to Mac being basically BSD, but with code that could raise major privacy concerns. I think Sendo (Neigsendoig) has tutorials on CoculesNation about setting up Linux for music production.

      Also, I hadn’t talked about this yet, but I’d recommend OP look into Ardour, Zrythm, Reaper, and maybe Qtractor as the DAWs of choice.

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    You have a 1.5 mo old. You don’t have time. Be a dad. Be a husband. Be a hobbyist.

    Take the easy route now. Come back when your kid and family are in a flow state.

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      I’m same boat and just want to say please come back. Dont leave your kids to the mercy of Microsoft Apple Google. Their learnings from your trials will help them grow. Be a dad, be a dad that helps your kids push past corporate ownership.

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    I mean Windows 11 can do annoying things, but it’s not gibberish. Reminds me of XP to Vista, but less about performance issues and more about incessant GUI tweaks no one asked for.

    I’d say update it and make do, then move to Linux down the road if it annoys you enough to motivate that decision.

    It’s not all bad, I am enjoying the HDR features, which is the only reason I updated before the Win10 EOL.

    That said, I do plan on making a Linux VM and playing around to get a feel for it.

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    just buy an extra ssd (i’d recommend 200 gigs at least, but if you’re gaming, obvs more space is needed), and install linux mint or pop os on it. imo pop is easier, but mint is more windows-like
    set your bios to boot from the new ssd, and make sure you install everything on the same drive
    and just keep the windows install, so if you need it or linux is too hard, you can go back easily
    i think you have physical space for several more sata drives, so if you need even more space you can get a larger regular hdd, for linux stuff

    fyi, while most games will happily run on linux, but you can’t use the same steam library folder, i’ve tried lol, so take that into consideration (however other loaders, like heroic launcher and lutris can run stuff installed on a windows partition, as long as the prefix is on a linux one. technically i guess you could use drm free steam installs too, but i’m already getting into the weeds, for simplicity’s sake, just use a separate drive)

    you can use ntfs (windows) partitions, for example i use two for downloads, movies, music and other platform agnostic stuff

    i’d be happy to help if you need it

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    No idea about Cakewalk etc but your Steam games will almost all be fine and Linux is honestly great right now and always getting better.

    Having used Linux Mint, Windows 10, and Windows 11, I can honestly say that Win10 is okay and Win11 is annoying dogshit. I’d recommend taking the Linux plunge of course, but if you’re desperate for Windows I think paid extended support for 10 might be a thing?

    But like I said 11 is dogshit and there’s no time like the present to just grab 3-4 USB sticks at Microcenter, download a bunch of ISOs and Rufus or Balena Etcher, and just dick around. Linux Mint with Cinnamon or KDE will probably give you one of the slickest Windows-like experiences OOTB. Only recommendation: some wifi cards (with certain chips, I forget which) in my experience have required me to go hunt down a driver, so check reviews for any card you’re looking at to see if people report it working out of the box.

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      Only recommendation: some wifi cards (with certain chips, I forget which) in my experience have required me to go hunt down a driver, so check reviews for any card you’re looking at to see if people report it working out of the box.

      With Linux mint, with one machine, I had to explicitly open the driver manager and tell it to use the drivers for the wifi. It wasn’t obvious but I’d read it on some random forum and remembered. Once I knew that was a thing, it was easy. Opened the driver manager, plugged in the install media (USB stick) when it asked, and then told it to use the proprietary drivers.

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    I went the other way, just installed LMDE and it all worked (AMD system) Then didn’t use stuff that didn’t work. Steam.worked but im not really gamer, the few non taxing games all worked no issues

    Figured I’d get a handle and disto hop later but cant be ass’d, used to it now and 80% of what I wanted worked with zero issues from thebhet go, another 10% I evetually got around to tweaking and works no issues and the other 10%, fcuk 'em and their lack of Linux supoort.

    18 months, all on, no dual boot etc

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    If you move to Linux, you gotta be committed. I didn’t learn Linux until I said “fuck it” and forced myself to use it exclusively.

    You will run into problems. You’ll have some days where you’ll spend 10hrs fixing something that no other person on the entire planet has encountered before, only to realize you needed to type in 1 very simple command to fix it.

    As much as people hate AI, it can help with Linux troubleshooting. There’s also wikis and manpages.

    If you switch at all, pick something that won’t break. Debian will run on your hardware just fine. You won’t have the latest and greatest packages, and as a newbie you DO NOT WANT the latest and greatest.

    Nvidia drivers are a hassle, be prepared.

    If all that sounds doable, send it.

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    If you want to dip your feet in without making any permanent decisions, try using a virtual machine or a live USB.

    The virtual machine is effectively no risk but slightly slower. The live USB gives you a more realistic experience (except for boot times) but it is possible to erase your data if you miss the several warning messages and press the “I know what I’m doing, proceed anyway” button.

    If you feel like Linux could work but you’re not ready to fully commit, you can dualboot. I had both Windows and Linux for 2-3 years before I was comfortable enough to not boot Windows.

    My personal preference is Linux Mint because it looks and feels very similar to Windows (I’m currently running LMDE). Any distro with KDE should also feel fairly familiar. Bazzite is more designed around gaming, but should still be adequate for most of your needs. It does have the reputation of being unbreakable.

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    Here’s a dad’s reply in a similar place - Win 11 is fine. I put it off for a very long time and just upgraded a couple weeks ago. It hasn’t really been an impact.

    Is Linux better? Yes. Does win 11 just work without too much fuss? Yes.

    I still have Linux on many machines in my house except for my gaming rig, just because I don’t want to have to break it and spend time refreshing it because my Linux skills aren’t up to par. I have a full time job and young kids and don’t have as much tinkering time as I used to.

    That being said, I’m migrating ALL machines that aren’t compatible with win 11 to Linux to avoid tossing them in a landfill like many will do, like my son’s gaming PC.

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    The problem will likely be the warped perception of “low effort” users like you have, that I went in detail on here

    This is indicated by phrases like these:

    struggle around with all that crap and I need to keep my music shit

    Which translate to me as “I don’t want to learn or change a thing, so tell me how I change the most fundamental part of my computing without doing that”.

    As I wrote in the comment linked above, with an attitude like that you’d have a significantly harder time than some non-techy person who just wants to have a system that “just works” without preconceptions, not bother with the technical details, but is entirely open to using new programs and doing things differently, as long as they work reliably.

    In your case, I’d say stick to Microsoft until you get your mindset and priorities straight. Because then you’d have an easy time without much tinkering at all. But as it stands I think you’d be setting yourself up for misery and failure.