This is one sample visit to the conservative subreddit. It’s an appalling example of the impact of disinformation. When you need to be reminded of who the enemy is and what they think, visit here. You will see that there is no gratitude or mutual respect, and there never was. There was never any concept of mutual benefit. And now, with Trump leading the cult, there truly is no depth to which they won’t go, and no decisions from Trump that won’t be retroactively justified.

These people are dangerous, and they don’t give a shit about any alliances, friendship or partnership. And they control the levers of power.

Edit to add a screenshot. Not sure how to add more, but it doesn’t get any better as you go deeper. What’s clear is that this relationship is over, and we need to move on.

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    Their edit is one of the stupidest things I have read in a minute. Everything about it is like an amateurs first attempt at international relations, but the only book they had on hand is “Learn Your ABCs”.

    “Technically an act of war!! Concerning!! Fentanyl!! Just want Canada to be safe for trade!!” It’s just word vomit; it has no base in reality.

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      For real. The issues occurring in the US are various, but the vast spreading of disinformation in the US is crippling. Don’t let unchecked lobbying (aka bribing of politicians) occur in your country, don’t let “news organizations” spread false realities.

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    0.2% of fentanyl inflow and 1.5% of migrants come via Canada. Both those justifications are just propaganda designed to manufacture consent for further pressure to push Canada to allow more influence by the malign forces that have pervaded the US. It’s just the next step by oligarchs.

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    This is actually classic fascist playbook:

    • We are the strongest
    • But also - o no - we are under attack from all sides, everyone is against us
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      Seriously why hasnt reddit banned that subreddit yet? Is not like they ARENT ban happy in other areas!

      But I guess fucking fascism is A-OK!!

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        Reddit is a soulless corporation that only wants to make money. Like a vampire, but money instead of blood. But if you drove a stake through the heart of reddit’s CEO and board members, you’d go to jail for some reason. Unless the jury was super cool and nullified.

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    Lmao.

    “My act of war is not an act of war. Your response to it is!!!” - Trump Sheep #15674

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      Funny, it’s exactly what Putin said about Ukraine. That and “It’s not a real country,” which Elon Musk recently said of Canada.

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      I mean, this is basically how the US enters every war - from Iraq to Korea to the Spanish American war to 1812.

      Hell, the Civil War started with Confederate cannon shells being viciously assaulted by Fort Sumtner’s barricades.

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      Fascists love AI generated slop, because it cuts the artist out of the art, so many of these might be real. Please be noted that platforms now often defend AI bots from countering, as they’re now hiding comments with common jailbreak phrases (which are also trivial to filter by the bot operators).

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      Would it surprise anyone if it was a Russian run subreddit. Heard moderation is heavy handed to quickly snuff out dissent with people having their conservative flairs taken away if they dare question dear leader who drinks the sun and eats the sky.

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      Many of them are, but sadly, many of them are actual people that are just that fucking brainwashed.

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    James O’Brien isn’t my favourite talking head, but I do like his idea of having contempt for the conmen and compassion for the conned. These people have swallowed a lot of big lies and the fault is with the liars.

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      If they were truely conned sure. But most of these guys just thought the pain would be placed on others, not them. They’re fine woth others suffering, but the tears start to flow when they experience anything negative at all.

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      I agree that someone conned deserves compassion. You got tricked into sending someone money? Im sorry, even if it was dumb of you, im angry at the scammer.

      But when you get scammed and the person who scammed you says theyre using your money for atrocious hateful acts, say making someones existence illegal, and you double down and say "well actually theyre right let me send more money, " you do not have any sympathy from me.

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      These people have swallowed a lot of big lies and the fault is with the liars.

      These people are adults and are responsible for their beliefs and actions.

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        100%
        The difference is I would leave the door open for them to come back to reason, maybe even give them the benefit of the doubt. But the people purposely manipulating then are, I think, beyond forgiveness.

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    Conservative voters are the dumbest fucking things, I swear. They go on about patriotism, yet want nothing more than to watch the downfall of their countries. Pathetic.

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      Conservative voters are the dumbest fucking things, I swear.

      I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative

      • John Stuart Mill
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      As a Canadian, I read that conservative reply and just think “Holy shit is this a dumb fucking American.”

      I’m really glad that these are the types of Americans that don’t cross the border because that means leaving their emotional support gun at home.

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        As a Canadian, you realize that we have Maga dipshits up here, and that members of the Canadian conservative governments have been seen sporting MAGA hats? And that the candidate for the federal Conservates was out there supporting the Dipshit trucker convoy? And that he has also suggested ditching CAD for bitcoin?

        Our cons are fucking dumb as fuck just like the rest, and we have people stupid enough to want to vote them in. And thanks to FPTP and 3 parties, they often stand the best chance of winning because the right don’t have anybody to split the vote like the left does.

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          Small nitpick. The ones in charge aren’t dumb they’re dangerous and they’re feeding off a dumb segment of the population that has been conditioned for this through a steady diet of bullshit from social media.

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            Very good point, and I’ve actually always put the voters at the bottom of the barrel of intelligence. Any stupid person could run for government, but it takes some especially fucking stupid people to action vote for them.

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    It has been interesting to see “Canadian Conservatives”, some of them top commenters, get viciously turned on by /r/conservative while lamenting about how this is hurting PP and the Conservatives movement in Canada.

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      turns out an ideology that ignores real problems and always seeks out groups to villainize isn’t a good way to make long term friends

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    Yeah, a trade war with Canada is easy to win for the US

    A trade war with Canada and Mexico is a bit tougher, the two biggest trading partners, pretty much

    Mexico, Canada and China is tough

    Mexico l, China, Canada, and the EU? You’re fucked US

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        Sanctioning China means a lot less when they’ve got half a dozen unaligned economies to back door and a voracious domestic economy to feed.

        Sanctioning Canada is a bigger deal because of how much of the urban center is just plastered in a thin layer over America’s northern border. Toronto, Windsor, and Vancouver can’t function without access to their direct southern neighbors.

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    Canada. If you want to invade and only fight the Republicans of America. I’d literally do nothing to stop y’all. Have at it rabid viper chickens.

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    I’m confused. The screenshot you shared just has two idiots sharing stupid opinions and 1.1 thousand/389 people (likely from the same subreddit) disagreeing with them.

    I’m not saying the conservative subreddit isn’t unhinged, but this feels pretty cherry picked.

    Maybe share a photo of the most upvoted comments for a better reference?

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      If you spent time on other platforms like Threads you’d see a lot more of this being continuously spewed. It’s why I deleted my accounts on several services. While this might be a cherry picked example from that sub, the far right revisionist take is far, far more common on popular social media than you think.

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    That sub reddit is also just a pool of self dock sucking. They have to make it so only their members can post because other people come in with things like facts and reason and just demolish them.