It’s true, generally one should not violate sovereignty by overthrowing a country’s government and replacing them with warmongering nazis eager to do ethnic cleansing.
You do understand how saying “two things can be true at once” as if you’re talking to an actual toddler is incredibly condescending and not a good place from whence to start a conversation, right? Have the basic respect for someone you’re talking and assume they also have object permanence.
Stepping into the room like you’re the enlightened Buddha whose shit don’t stink, because you just figured out that both Biden and Trump can be senile at the same time, only has the effect to make everyone else look at you like the idiot you are for
Not figuring it out earlier and
Behaving as if you’re presenting some novel insight.
Alternatively if you’re trying to dunk on someone have the basic respect for the audience and be either effective or original, which “two things can be true at once” is, ironically, neither.
Edit: its also an incredibly reductive way of approaching geopolitics. Reducing critique of US foreign policy to “our guy bad yes, but their guy bad also!!” is in fact what whataboutism is supposed to describe. It’s a rhetorical trick drawing a line where the only discussion about world events can be about wether one of the two things the iniator mentions is more true than another. Bring up a third thing or a more in-depth critique of one of the two pre-existing things and you’ll get drowned out.
It’s a thought-terminating cliché.
@Saapas@piefed.zip who I can’t respond to for some reason: good point! Wish I’d mentioned that
Alternatively if you’re trying to dunk on someone have the basic respect for the audience and be either effective or original, which “two things can be true at once” is, ironically, neither.
Whoops. Read the rest of the text next time buddy.
Not sure why you can’t reply to me though. I’m testing if it works for me replying to you (E: seems to work, might be an instance thing but no idea why it would only work in one direction)
You do understand how saying “two things can be true at once” as if you’re talking to an actual toddler is incredibly condescending and not a good place from whence to start a conversation, right? Have the basic respect for someone you’re talking and assume they also have object permanence.
If OP was looking for adult conversation, this title might’ve not been the greatest place to start lol:
Looking to fill out my liberal bingo card I came to this thread looking for “two things can be true at once”.
Edit: by announcing I am observing a thread I have changed its behaviour. Redditors see my comment and rephrase into other clichés.
Wow only 3 minutes after your comment!
https://lemmy.ml/comment/23346288
Sadly I’m looking for the specific phrase. It’s a cliché so it comes up often enough
Hey that’s me! Sadly not many replies though
…you understand that two things CAN be true at once, though. Right?
The one true statement is violating sovereignty is a bad thing. That’s the one bad thing.
It’s true, generally one should not violate sovereignty by overthrowing a country’s government and replacing them with warmongering nazis eager to do ethnic cleansing.
You do understand how saying “two things can be true at once” as if you’re talking to an actual toddler is incredibly condescending and not a good place from whence to start a conversation, right? Have the basic respect for someone you’re talking and assume they also have object permanence.
Stepping into the room like you’re the enlightened Buddha whose shit don’t stink, because you just figured out that both Biden and Trump can be senile at the same time, only has the effect to make everyone else look at you like the idiot you are for
Alternatively if you’re trying to dunk on someone have the basic respect for the audience and be either effective or original, which “two things can be true at once” is, ironically, neither.
Edit: its also an incredibly reductive way of approaching geopolitics. Reducing critique of US foreign policy to “our guy bad yes, but their guy bad also!!” is in fact what whataboutism is supposed to describe. It’s a rhetorical trick drawing a line where the only discussion about world events can be about wether one of the two things the iniator mentions is more true than another. Bring up a third thing or a more in-depth critique of one of the two pre-existing things and you’ll get drowned out.
It’s a thought-terminating cliché.
@Saapas@piefed.zip who I can’t respond to for some reason: good point! Wish I’d mentioned that
Whoops. Read the rest of the text next time buddy.
Not what I’d call peak originality lol.
Not sure why you can’t reply to me though. I’m testing if it works for me replying to you (E: seems to work, might be an instance thing but no idea why it would only work in one direction)
If OP was looking for adult conversation, this title might’ve not been the greatest place to start lol:
Gets called out for acting like a child
“Heh, just trying to make you feel at home”
The shithead classic